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The Public Sector Podcast: Securing Innovation Without Stalling It

How embedding cyber risk into digital delivery enables safer, bolder transformation.

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Heather Dailey 25 May 2026 · 3 min read
The Public Sector Podcast: Securing Innovation Without Stalling It

Episode Overview

In this episode, Ian Pham, Chief Information Security Officer, Victorian Managed Insurance Authority explores how the meaning of being “risk averse” changes over the course of a cyber security career — from focusing purely on threats and vulnerabilities to developing a broader understanding of risk, opportunity and organisational purpose. He shares how cyber professionals often start out trying to lock everything down, but over time learn that the goal isn’t to stop everything — it’s to enable the organisation to move forward safely.

Through stories, practical examples and a personal analogy about raising his kids, Ian explains the difference between being risk averse and being risk aware. He also discusses how cyber, risk and compliance teams can support innovation — particularly in areas like AI and emerging technology — by embedding security early, reframing business cases, and aligning security work to the bigger mission of the organisation.


Key Themes

  • Risk aversion vs risk awareness - The goal isn’t to avoid all risk, but to understand and manage risk so the organisation can move forward safely.
  • Cyber security as a business enabler, not a blocker - When security is involved early and aligned to business goals, it helps projects move faster and more safely rather than slowing them down.
  • Innovation, AI and emerging technology risk - Emerging technologies create both opportunities and risks, and cyber teams must manage the risks without stopping innovation.
  • Governance and assurance that supports speed and innovation - Good governance should enable faster delivery through clear controls and early involvement, not slow projects down with late-stage approvals.
  • Reframing cyber conversations in business terms - Security initiatives are more successful when they are explained in terms of business value, outcomes and opportunity, not just technical risk.
  • Understanding enterprise risk, not just cyber risk - Cyber risk is only one part of the bigger risk picture, so decisions should consider all business risks and priorities.
  • Aligning security with organisational purpose - Security should support the organisation’s mission and outcomes, not operate as a separate function focused only on threats.
  • Building shared understanding across teams - Innovation happens more effectively when delivery, risk and security teams share the same language, goals and understanding of risk.

What You’ll Learn

  • How cyber professionals’ relationship with risk changes as they move into leadership
  • Why focusing only on cyber risk can limit innovation
  • How to reframe security investments in terms of business value and opportunity
  • Ways to embed security earlier to speed up delivery and approvals
  • How governance and compliance can be used to enable, not stop, innovation
  • Why understanding enterprise risk helps cyber teams make better decisions
  • How to get executive buy-in for security initiatives

Key Takeaways

  • Preventing breaches is a responsibility, not the ultimate goal.
  • The real goal is helping the organisation achieve its mission safely.
  • Security teams should focus on enabling innovation, not just stopping risk.
  • Understanding risk appetite and risk tolerance is critical for innovation.
  • Speaking the language of the business is key to getting support and funding.
  • Embedding security early makes delivery faster, not slower.
  • Cyber risk is only one part of the overall business risk picture.

Why You Should Listen

If you work in cyber security, risk, compliance, technology or the public sector, this episode will challenge the way you think about risk and innovation. It offers a practical and honest perspective on how security teams can move from being seen as the blocker to becoming a trusted partner that helps organisations innovate, grow and deliver on their mission.


Memorable Quotes

  • “Preventing a data breach is my responsibility — but it’s not the goal.”
  • “Are we risk averse, or are we risk aware?”
  • “If we only focus on cyber risk, what opportunities are we stopping?”
  • “Security doesn’t have to mean slow anymore.”
  • “Our job isn’t just to protect data — it’s to help the organisation thrive.”
  • “Opportunity comes to those who are daring.”

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Heather Dailey Content Strategist, Public Sector Network